Electron Orbit Radius in Rutherford's Model

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In Rutherford's model the electron moves in a circle around the nucleus. The pull of the nucleus (Coulomb force) exactly supplies the centripetal force needed for the circle. Setting these equal gives the orbit radius: r = e squared / (4 pi e0 * m v squared). Memory hook: "Pull = Turn" - the electric pull IS the turning force, so a bigger speed means a smaller, tighter orbit.
Coulomb pull = Centripetal force (Rutherford orbit)+Zee-F (pull)v (tangent)Set them equal:k Z e^2 / r^2 = m v^2 / rCancel one r, solve:r = k Z e^2 / (m v^2)k = 1/(4 pi e0) = 9 x 10^9
The nucleus (+Ze) pulls the electron with Coulomb force F, always pointing to the centre. This pull IS the centripetal force for the circular orbit. Equating k Z e squared / r squared to m v squared / r and cancelling one r gives the orbit radius r = k Z e squared / (m v squared).

Your doubts, answered

How is the electron orbit radius derived in Rutherford's model?

The electron of charge -e goes around a nucleus of charge +Ze in a circle. The nucleus pulls the electron with the Coulomb force F = (1/4 pi e0) * (Z e squared) / r squared. For circular motion this pull must be the centripetal force m v squared / r. Set them equal: (1/4 pi e0)(Z e squared)/r squared = m v squared / r. Cancel one r: (1/4 pi e0)(Z e squared)/r = m v squared. Solve for r: r = Z e squared / (4 pi e0 * m v squared). For hydrogen Z = 1, so r = e squared / (4 pi e0 * m v squared).

Why does the Coulomb force equal the centripetal force here?

Any object moving in a circle needs a real force pointed toward the centre, called the centripetal force. In an atom the only force available is the electric pull of the nucleus on the electron. So that electric (Coulomb) pull must be the thing playing the centripetal role. It is not two separate forces - it is one force (Coulomb) doing the centripetal job. That is why we write Coulomb force = centripetal force.

Does Rutherford's model give one fixed radius like Bohr's model?

No. This is the key point. Rutherford's equation r = e squared / (4 pi e0 * m v squared) allows ANY radius, because the speed v can be anything. There is no rule that fixes v, so there is no fixed radius and no fixed energy. Bohr later added a rule (angular momentum m v r = n h / 2 pi) that only allows special speeds, and only then do you get fixed radii like 0.53 Angstrom. So the radius formula is Rutherford; the quantised values are Bohr.

How does the orbit radius depend on the electron's speed?

From r = e squared / (4 pi e0 * m v squared), radius is inversely proportional to v squared. A faster electron sits in a smaller, tighter orbit; a slower electron sits in a larger orbit. This is the same idea as a satellite: closer orbits need higher speed. In a NEET numerical you are often given v and asked for r - just plug into r = k e squared / (m v squared) with k = 9 x 10^9.

Is r = e squared / (4 pi e0 m v squared) a Bohr formula or a Rutherford formula?

The force balance (Coulomb = centripetal) and this radius expression belong to Rutherford's classical model - they use only Newton's law and Coulomb's law, no quantisation. Bohr keeps this same force balance but ADDS the quantisation of angular momentum, which then turns v and r into fixed n-dependent values (r proportional to n squared). So the raw formula is Rutherford; the n squared version (r = 0.53 n squared / Z Angstrom) is Bohr.

⚠️ The NEET trap
Plugging speed into r = 0.53 n squared Angstrom, or assuming Rutherford's model fixes the radius at 0.53 Angstrom.
Rutherford's model gives r = e squared / (4 pi e0 m v squared) - the radius depends on the actual speed and can be ANY value. The fixed 0.53 n squared Angstrom values come only after Bohr's quantisation rule is applied.
🧠 If the question gives you a velocity and says 'Rutherford' or 'Coulomb provides centripetal force', use the force-balance radius r = k e squared / (m v squared), NOT the Bohr n squared formula.

Real NEET questions

ReNEET 2026

An electron is revolving in an excited state of a Hydrogen atom with velocity sqrt(25.6) x 10^5 m/s. The radius of the orbit is x x 10^-9 m. The value of x is: [m_e = 9 x 10^-31 kg, e = 1.6 x 10^-19 C, 1/(4 pi e0) = 9 x 10^9 N m^2 C^-2]

A · 4
B · 3
C · 2
D · 1
Solution: Coulomb force provides the centripetal force: k e^2 / r^2 = m v^2 / r, so r = k e^2 / (m v^2). Note v^2 = 25.6 x 10^10 m^2/s^2. Substitute: r = (9 x 10^9 x (1.6 x 10^-19)^2) / (9 x 10^-31 x 25.6 x 10^10). Numerator = 9 x 10^9 x 2.56 x 10^-38 = 2.304 x 10^-28. Denominator = 9 x 25.6 x 10^-21 = 230.4 x 10^-21 = 2.304 x 10^-19. r = 2.304 x 10^-28 / 2.304 x 10^-19 = 1 x 10^-9 m. Hence x = 1.
NEET 2023 Phase 1

The radius of innermost orbit of hydrogen atom is 5.3 x 10^-11 m. What is the radius of the third allowed orbit of hydrogen atom?

A · 0.53 Angstrom
B · 1.06 Angstrom
C · 1.59 Angstrom
D · 4.77 Angstrom
Solution: Once Bohr's quantisation is applied to Rutherford's force balance, the allowed radii follow r_n = n^2 r_1 for hydrogen (Z = 1). For the third orbit n = 3: r_3 = 3^2 x 5.3 x 10^-11 m = 9 x 0.53 Angstrom = 4.77 Angstrom. This shows how the free Rutherford radius becomes a fixed n^2 ladder once Bohr fixes the speed.

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Frequently asked

What is the formula for electron orbit radius in Rutherford's model?

r = Z e squared / (4 pi e0 * m v squared), where Z is the nuclear charge number (Z = 1 for hydrogen), e is the electron charge, m is its mass and v is its speed. Using 1/(4 pi e0) = k = 9 x 10^9, this is r = k Z e squared / (m v squared).

Why can't Rutherford's model give a definite radius?

Because nothing fixes the electron's speed v. Any v gives a valid orbit, so any radius is allowed. Only Bohr's extra rule (quantised angular momentum) picks out special speeds and turns this into fixed radii.

What supplies the centripetal force for the electron?

The electrostatic Coulomb attraction between the positive nucleus and the negative electron. That single pull, directed toward the nucleus, plays the role of the centripetal force.

How does the radius change if the speed doubles?

Since r is inversely proportional to v squared, doubling the speed makes the radius one-fourth of its original value. Faster electron means a much tighter orbit.

Is this the same force balance used in Bohr's model?

Yes. Bohr keeps the exact same Coulomb = centripetal balance from Rutherford, then adds m v r = n h / 2 pi. Combining the two gives the famous r_n = 0.53 n squared / Z Angstrom and E_n = -13.6 Z squared / n squared eV.